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Massive executions, tortures, and violence of peaceful inhabitants are traces of Russism of Russia of 20th and beginning of 21st century on Chechen land. The open cynicism and wild cruelty has clearly unveiled reality of Russian barbarous hordes on Caucasus. On the photo can be seen the traces of beastly brutality of Russian sadists, which cut pieces of meat from the face and chest of the victim. Chechen civilians are daily incurring to such cruelties from the Dirty Russian Satanists.


Opinion:

29.07.2001
Theme: Abu Summayah, and all Muslims brothers.

http://www.osaeed.com 016.125 YUSUFALI: "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance." This is what I am trying to do, 'arguing with them in ways that are best and most gracious', and this is what you all should do too. It is not for us to assume that Allah will never guide someone, only Allah has all knowledge. Also I completely support the Chechens, the Talibans, and the Kashmiris, and all Mujahideen, may Allah be pleased with them and give them victory in this life and in the Hereafter.
ABC


29.07.2001
Theme: Pierre, France,NY, Kuwait.

Hi Pierre and Assalamualaikum to NY. NY, I think the discussion is intresting. Some quote from your discussions and my opinion. [We don't let them to wear it to not let the other kids to treat hear differently and call hear a "freak". See the kids psychology is different than the adults, they don't understand like older people.] Well,can you see that all over the world, how blacks mingle with white kids when young?Kids are innocent,they accept things.How come,some white kids when they are adults they start being racial?Its because of upbringing and influence of society and also their personal experience.It is the adults that tuned their innocent mind to be racial.If the hijab is worn by a Muslim kid, I bet other kids will be curious and ask their parents.Hope the parents or French government dont explain that they are freaks!Anyway where is the supposed freedom which the west is so proud of? [We don't kill prostitutes and homesexuals, the poeple should chose by themselfes what is good for them and what is bad. The human being is not a machine and he has a feelings about a right and wrong. ] Feelings about right or wrong? Why then be a prostitute or practice free sex which can spread AIDS? You call that having feelings for right and wrong? You don't kill prostitutes and homesexuals cos you want them to spread AIDS and kill others?Then when AIDS spread, the west has expensive drugs to sell to fill up its coffers. About women working...I have this to comment. An example is the west, both husband and wife work,what happened? Many social problems occurs. Kids lacks guidance from parents.There is no closeness in the family. Kids get neglected.When kids are neglected, they become wayward. Cant you see that family is important?That is what Islam preaches. However women can work but priority is still in raising up kids well. Root of the problem?Money!Making money, parents neglect children and family cohesion.That is why Islam preaches to lead a normal life, Not to rich and not to poor.Man SHOULD work,but the women CAN work but not to the extent of neglecting their children.Dont mothers knows best in raising children?
Malik, Singapore

28.07.2001
To: MUS.

I certainly disagree with you. Spreading Islam is not an easy task. If previous muslims did as you say, you might be kafir by now. Put aside your impatient and emotion. Every hundreds non-muslims who read the dawaah articles maybe Allah open some of their hearts. The purpose of this discussion group is to put awareness among us and non-muslims about injustice being implied on muslims by tyrants just because of their religion is Islam. Therefore, use it effectively to spread islam. They are bad today but who knows Allah open their heart tomorrow. Maybe, you should read story of prophet Muhammad(pbuh) and read who were Khalid Al-Walid, Abu Suffian and etc before accepting Islam. If prophet Muhammad(pbuh) was so patient by disregarding the offer of the angels of mountains to crush people of Taif, why not us be a little bit patient. May Allah guide us on the right path. Ps: Brothers and sisters continue your dawaah because you will get reward preaching islam even though they don't accept it and we should remember that Allah guides who he wishes and it is not us who change people hearts.
Slave of Allah, Allah's land

27.07.2001
Glory be to the Almighty Allah. Just one aspect of the law of Allah made France to shiver. That  is the HIJAB. Why are they so scared? What if we pratice all other Islamic laws? Won't they collapse? Ofcourse! Islam is unique. Only Muslims take their religion seriously. If the Kuffar expect us to take the religon as a kind of a part time job to make money or to hold on to power then they are greatly mistaken. They used Christianity to be in power and they miserably failed. Now the Churches are only used for ceremonial activities, including Gay Marriages. What a shame! Disasterous, isn't it? No! Islam will not reach that point since it has it's own mechanisms to stop such disasters. Islam is protected by Allah, although the other religions too were from Him. But those religions were not meant to be preserved for ever. When finally Allah sent Islam as the final and complete religion, as a way of life, all other religions ceased to exist. They were valid only for a per! iod until the next one came in to being. That is the very reason why those religions were easily corrupted by their followers. This is the clear proof to the unbelievers if only they can see the light. This is why Islam is different to all other religions. They expect us too to treat the religion like a joke. They simply say it is terroristic without even looking in to the beauty of it's system. They are very unfortunate in this respect. For this knowledge alone we have to thank Allah a million times for making us Muslims.
NY, Kuwait


27.07.2001
Theme: Forget it!!!!!!!!

Forget it!! Dont waste your time explaining to the unbelievers something that they would not try to understand. If the unbelivers are interested to know about Islam let them search it themselves where there are plenty of mosques, muslims in thier countries and perhaps some other means like the web sites, etc. Why trouble your selves to some thing that iritate you? I believe they are not going to try to understand, neither they find us muslims as like other human nor do they try to help us!! So......forget it!!!
Blast:MUS, Malaysia

27.07.2001
Theme: NY.

NY it is very stupid to compare the bas sides of our society and yours, because you have much more lacks. Yes maybe we don't let  muslim girls to wear hijab to school, but we don't destroy muslim mosques. We don't let them to wear it to not let the other kids to treat hear differently and call hear a "freak". See the kids psychology is different than the adults, they don't understand like older people. We have freedom, and our freedom is not Excessive . We don't kill prostitutes and homesexuals, the poeple should chose by themselfes what is good for them and what is bad. The human being is not a machine and he has a feelings about a right and wrong. What the hell are your talking about a man who is sitting at home and letting his wife to work? Your backward mind just don't understand that man and woman are equal human beings. The both have a right to chose their future. Woman only use is not to gave birth and do all work at home, and be a second scene person all he! r life. When man can Enjoy his life and go toward the sucess. For example i noticed this thing after my contacts with many muslims. All muslim women that I have met are are very narrow-minded, down to earth, and low-educated. When Men are mostly very intellignet(whom I have met), without any complexes, interesting people with a big Knowledge about many things, especially religions, and peoples with whom is interesting  to talk. And about the religion. Muslim religion is the fastest growing religon in the world because you have a highest rate of the birth. Europeans are having 1-3 kids, and giving them everything that they needed. In muslim countries peoples are having more children than they can support. The effect is the hight rate of poverty. About Afganistan, you say Russians are supporting the Northern Coalition but you forgot that Taliban was supported by Pakistani regime, and Americans were supporting Taliban too by the time.
Pierre, France

26.07.2001
To: Pierre-You are using wrong phrases.

I can't understand why you unbelievers can't understand the situation as it is. Or is it that you make these statements out of desperation of being unable to stop the force of Islam? You say,Quote: "You(Muslims) are persecuting the people of other religions, by forcing them to live by your standarts because of Allah's will." UN_Quote. This is a gross misrepresentation. When we live in France we live acccording to the JUST laws of France. Similarly when you live in Afghanistan you got to live as per the just laws of Afghanistan. Ofcourse you could make your case if any laws are unjust with good reasoning. As you know France has banned the Muslims from wearing the Hijab to Schools which is totally unjust. I can understand if the Muslims wanted to go to school naked and if they banned it, then it is just and if we still continue to go nude then the Govt of France has the full right to prosecute and sack the students from schools. This is what is called just or unjust laws. So in Afghanistan if they tell you to dress modestly can you call it unjust. If they tell you not to practice prostitution, is it unjust? If they tell you not to bring in pornographic films is it unjust? If they tell you not deal in Liquor or consume( which is medically proved beyond doubt to be harmful to the health), is it unjust. If the! y tell you not to practice homosexualism or Lesbianism, which brought the AIDS and which has already killed millions, and another 200 million are infected and are waiting  for their turn to die, is it unjust? If they tell the unbelievers to pay a Tax called Jizya, which will guarantee their rights and protection, and at the same time charge the Muslims too a Tax called Zakat, the Tax of Purification, is it unjust? If they tell you to live a morally acceptable life of truth and not to rob or cheat the innocent, is it unjust? If they give first prefence for the man to work and earn his living to look after his wife and children, rather than sending his wife to earn and for the man to sit at home, is it unjust? What the HELL are you talking about. Simply because all these currupt, dirty habits are prevailing in your society should we Muslims too follow your dirty life. Don't we have the right to live according to our will? Please stop your damned nonsense, you uncivilised peopl! e. Don't think we MUslims are fools. We can see hoe you people are suffering in the west. We don't consider weatlh and facilities as a sign of good life. A good life is a life of modesty and sincerity. You asked why people are fighting there, it is because, inspite of the Taliban holding 90% of the country under their just rule, UN and US, Russia and others are financing and arming the small opposition group as they always do when they don't like a rigime. It is the dictatorial attitude of the West that is the cause and not the Afghans. Few days back Russia provided the opposition a large consigment of arms to make them fight. So you should ask this question from your cousins why they do it, if you have the slightest sense. You said,"Why you can't do everything like normal people." What do you mean? They are doing everything normal. It is you people who do abnormal things, like, allowing people to have sex on the road side, allowing people run brothels and infecting people with Siphilis and Gonnorhea, Allowing Homos and Lesbis to have a free go, infecting people with Aids, allowing liquor and cigerette companies to flurish. And oppressing the Muslims all over the world. So tell me who is normal and who is abnormal. About free elections, why not you tell your UN to lift their sanctions before elections. People will have to eat first and live to go to cast their votes.You said, "I think everything that you have done has nothing to do with Islam as well as any other religion" It has a lot to do wit Islam as well as humanity, as I have explained above. So don't you make any such STUPID statements in future. Being in the west doesn't mean you are intellegent, you find many dumbs like you too. May Allah help us spread this religion of justice and peace as it is the fastest growing religion in the world and in the west in particular.
NY, Kuwait


25.07.2001
Theme: Stupidity (for Paula).

Question:        
I am having difficulties explaining to a muslim that erecting a non-muslim statue is haram. His response was this woman was a heroine and fought the muslims to defend her land, and she is my ancester before islamization.. Can a muslim idolize a statue, or erect one in memory of a hero?, even if the hero and/or heroine was not a muslim?
Answer:
Praise be to Allaah. Firstly, it may be understood from your question that what is to be denounced is the fact that the statue is of a kaafir, and that if it was a statue of a Muslim it would be permissible to erect it. This is a mistake, because all statues of animate beings are equally haraam, regardless of whether they are made in the images of a Muslim or a kaafir. Indeed, making a statue of a kaafir is worse, because it combines two evils, that of making the statue and that of glorifying this kaafir. There follow details of the prohibition on the making of images and statues.
I. 
The prohibition on statues is not just the matter of fiqh; it goes beyond that to the matter of ‘aqeedah, because  Allaah is the Only One Who has the power of giving shape to His creation and creating them in the best image. Making images implies that one is trying to match the creation of Allaah. The matter also has to do with "aqeedah when these images are taken as idols which are worshipped instead of Allaah. Among the daleel (evidence) that image-making is the exclusive preserve of Allaah are the following:
1. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): "He it is Who shapes you in the wombs as He wills" [Aal ‘Imraan 3:6] "And surely, We created you (your father Adam) and then gave you shape (the noble shape of a human being); then We told the angels, ‘Prostrate yourselves to Adam'" [al-A'raaf 7:11] "He is Allaah, the Creator, the Inventor of all things, the Bestower of forms. To Him belong the Best Names. All that is in the heavens and the earth glorify Him. And He is the All?Mighty, the All?Wise" [al-Hashr 59:24] "O man! What has made you careless about your Lord, the Most Generous? Who created you, fashioned you perfectly, and gave you due proportion. In whatever form He willed, He put you together." [al-Infitaar 82:6-8] These aayaat clearly state the belief that creating and giving form to creation is the preserve of their Lord, Creator and Fashioner, so it is not permissible for anyone to encroach on that and to try to match the creation of Allaah.
2.  It was reported from ‘Aa'ishah Umm al-Mu'mineen that Umm Habeebah and Umm Salamah mentioned a church which       they had seen in Ethiopia, in which there were images. They  told the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about it, and he said: "Those people, if there was a righteous man among them and he died, they would build a place of worship over his grave and put images in it. These will be the most evil of creation before Allaah on the Day of Resurrection." (narrated by al-Bukhaari, 417; Muslim, 528) Al-Haafiz Ibn Hajar said: This hadeeth indicates that making images is haraam. (Fath al-Baari, 1/525). Al-Nawawi said: Our  companions and other scholars said: making images of animate beings is extremely haraam and is a major sin, because severe warnings have been issued against it in the ahaadeeth. Whether the mage is made to be used in a disrespectful fashion or for other purposes, it is haraam to make it in all cases, because it implies that one is trying to match the creation of Allaah, whether the image is to appear on a garment, carpet, coin, vessel, wall or whatever. With regard to pictures of trees, camel saddles, and other pictures in which no animate beings appear, these are not haraam. This is the ruling on making images. (Sharh Muslim, 14/81).
3.  Sa'eed ibn Abi'l-Hasan said: I was with Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) when a man came to him and said, O Abu ‘Abbaas, I am a man who lives by what his hands make, and I make these images. Ibn ‘Abbaas said: I will only tell you what I heard the Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say. I heard him say: "Whoever makes an image, Allaah will punish him until he breathes life into it, and he will never be able to do that."  The man became very upset and his face turned pale, so [Ibn ‘Abbaas] said to him, Woe to you! If you insist on making images, then make images of these trees and everything that does not have a soul. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2112; Muslim, 2110).
4. "Abd-Allaah ibn Mas'ood said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: The people who will be the most severely punished before Allaah on the Day of Resurrection will be the image makers. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5606; Muslim, 2109).
5. It was reported from ‘Abd-Allaah ibn "Umar (may Allaah be pleased with them both) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: Those who make these images will be punished on the Day of Resurrection. It will be said to them, Give life to that which you       have created! (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5607; Muslim, 2108).
6. It was reported that Abu Hurayrah entered a house in Madeenah and saw somebody making images in it. He said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: [Allaah says:] Who does greater wrong than one who goes and creates something like My creation? Let them create a seed or a small ant! (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5609; Muslim, 2111).
Al-Nawawi said:
Concerning the words of Allaah. "Let them create a small ant or a seed or a grain of barley!" means, let them create a small ant which has a soul and moves by itself, like this small ant which was created by Allaah. Or let them create  a grain of wheat or barley, i.e., let them create a grain which is eaten as food or which can be planted so it will grow and which has the characteristics of a grain of wheat or barley or other seeds which were created by Allaah. This is impossible, as stated above. (Sharh Muslim, 14/90). None can bring forth living vegetation out of nothing except Allaah, may He be glorified.
7. Abu Juhayfah said: the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade the price of a dog and the price of  blood, and he forbade tattooing and asking to be tattooed, and the consumption or paying of ribaa, and he cursed those who make images. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1980).
II.
Islam prescribes that idols should be destroyed and smashed, not made and repaired. Among the evidence for this is the following:
1. "Abd-Allaah ibn Mas'ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: when the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon       him) entered Makkah [at the Conquest], there were three hundred and sixty idols around the Ka'bah. He started hitting them with his stick and saying, "Truth has come and Baatil (falsehood) has vanished. Surely, Baatil is ever bound to vanish" [al-Israa' 17:81 – interpretation of the meaning]. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 2346; Muslim, 1781).        
2. Abu'l-Hiyaaj al-Asadi said: ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib said to me: Shall I not send you on the same basis as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent me? Do not leave any statue without destroying it, and do not leave any built-up grave without razing it to the ground. (According to one report: and do not leave any picture without erasing it). (narrated by Muslim, 969).
Ibn al-Qayyim said:
Tamaatheel is the plural of Timthaal (statue), which refers to a representative image. Shaykh al-Islam (Ibn Taymiyah) said:  The command is to destroy two types of images: images which represent the deceased person, and images which are placed on top of graves – because Shirk may come about from both types. (Majmoo' al-Fataawaa, 17/462). (al-Fawaa'id, p. 196).
III.
The Prophet  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned against bringing images into the house, and said that this is a sin and deprives a person of good. Among the evidence for that is the following:
1. Abu Talhah said: I heard the Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or statues." (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3053; Muslim, 2106).
2. "Aa'ishah Umm al-Mu'mineen (may Allaah be pleased with her) said that she bought a pillow on which there were images. When the Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw it, he stood at the door and did not enter. She saw on his face that he was upset, and said: O Messenger of Allaah, I repent to Allaah and His Messenger  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). What is my sin? The Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: What is this pillow? She said, I bought it for you so that you could sit on it and recline on it. The Messenger of Allaah  (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: On the Day of Resurrection, the makers of these images will be punished and it will be said to them, Give life to that which you have created. And he said: The angels do not enter a house in which there are images. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 1999; Muslim, 2107).
IV.
Making images is a way of falling into Shirk, because Shirk starts with the veneration of those who are depicted in the images, especially when people have little or no knowledge. The evidence for this is: Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The idols of the people of Nooh were known among the Arabs later on. Wadd belonged to (the tribe of) Kalb in Dawmat al-Jandal. Suwaa' belonged to Hudhayl. Yaghooth belonged to Muraad, then to Bani Ghutayf in al-Jawf, near Sabaa'. Ya'ooq belonged to Hamadaan. Nasar belonged to Humayr of Aal Dhi'l-Kalaa'. These were names of righteous men from the people of Nooh. When they died, the Shaytaan inspired their people to set up idols in the places where they had used to sit, and to call those idols by their names. They did that but they did not  worship them, but after those people died and knowledge had been forgotten, then they started to worship them. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4636).
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said:
The reason why al-Laat was worshipped was the veneration of the grave of a righteous man which was there. (Iqtidaa' al-Siraat al-Mustaqeem, 2/333).
And he said:
This problem – i.e., veneration – which is why Islam forbids (images), is the reason  why so many of nations have fallen into committing Shirk to a greater or lesser degree. (al-Iqtidaa', 2/334). Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said, describing how the Shaytaan plays with the Christians: He plays with them with regard to the images which they have in their churches and which they worship. You cannot find any church which is free of these images of  Maryam (Mary), the Messiah, George, Peter and others of their saints and martyrs. Most  of them bow to these images and pray to them instead of to Allaah. The Patriarch of  Alexandria even wrote a letter to the ruler of Rome supporting the idea of bowing to these images: (he said) Allaah commanded Moosa  to make images of cherubim in the Tabernacle; and when Sulayman the son of  Dawood built the Temple, he made images of cherubim and put them inside the Temple. Then he said in his letter: this is like when a king sends a letter to one of his governors and the governor takes the letter and kisses it then touches it to his forehead [a sign of  respect], and stands up to receive it. He does not do this to venerate the paper and ink, but to venerate the king. In the same way, when one bows to an image, it is to venerate the person represented by the image, not to venerate the paints and colours. This is exactly the same as the example given to justify idol worship. (Ighaathat  al-Lahfaan, 2/292).
And he said:
 In most cases, the reason why nations fall into Shirk is because of images and graves." (Zaad al-Ma'aad, 3/458). V.  The aayaat and ahaadeeth quoted above indicate that the prohibition of images is for two reasons: The first is: because it implies that one is trying to match the creation of Allaah. The second is: because it is an imitation of  the kuffaar. The third is: because it is a means of veneration and falling into Shirk. From the above it is clear that it is forbidden to make statues, whether the statue is of a Muslim or a kaafir. Whoever does that is trying to match the creation of Allaah and thus deserves to be cursed. We ask Allaah to keep us safe and sound, and to guide us. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad. Islam Q&A (www.islam-qa.com)
Ibn Umar, Yemen


25.07.2001
To: ABC.

Assallamu alaikum wr. Wb.. We are not here to educate and appease the non-believers, but to show  our support and sympathy for the mujahiddin, and to encourage them  to strive harder in Jihad. We are here also to bring awareness to Muslim  viewers who visit this web-site for informations on Jihad in Chechnya.  Remember, no  matter how hard you try, neither you nor anyone in this forum can bring guidances to the non-believers for it is Allah alone who can guide them. Their hearts are diseased, and Allah will surely increase the intensity of their disease. Their enmity to Islam knows no bounds, and they will do whatever within their capabilities to bring harm to Islam and Muslim.  If the Talibans had accepted the offer to renovate the statues, that would have earned them Allah's wrath. Their meagre income from the restoration of the statues would have been unlawful (haram) to them. This is what the un-believers would wants us to do by compromising our religion just for a meagre sum. I would rather show them  my contempt and disgust, for what they have done to Muslims throughout the planet, than try to appease them and apologise for our beliefs. The early Salafs were simple in their approach to the non-believers, and we should likewise do the same. The Jews and the Christians will not be pleased with you until you follow their ways. There is nothing that a Muslim can do but will only increase the hatred of the non-believers to Islam and Muslims. Indeed, a diluted form of Islam will be most acceptable to them. Therefore, should we try to please them or should we instead rightfully try to please Allah. If they (un-believers) are truly sincere, than they should be open-minded and not biased towards issues affecting Islam and Muslims. My posting in this forum dated 22.7.2001 addressed to Mr. Clay has clarified the position of Muslims towards the issue of statues in Islam, but yet our friend (Paula) continue to twist and turn her arguments. They should first learn as much as possible about Islam, before they form an opinion on it. They already had sufficient time to do so for  is not one thousand four hundred years sufficient. As there is no compulsion in Islam, I guess Paula and the others have up to the Day of Judgement to do so. May I assure you Brother, that I am most pleased with your association as I am  most pleased with all the other Muslim writers in this forum. JazakumuAllah bil-kheir.
Abu Sumayyah, Yemen

25.07.2001
Theme: The Quiz : Who Is The Terrorist!

Let the  events  tell  the  story. 
1. Who  dropped the  first  ATOMIC  BOMB  in  Nagasaki  and  Hiroshima  and killed  Millions? 
2. Who  recognized  the  Zionist  State  of  Israel  only  11  minutes  after declaring  statehood  in  the lands  ROBBED  from   the  Palestinians  by  a criminal named  Ben  Gurion? 
3. Who  helped  the  Zionists  to  develop Chemical , Biological  and  Nuclear weapons  while prohibiting  such  weapons  for  the  Muslim  Countries? 
4. Who  vetoed  the  security  council  motion  when  the  Israeli  criminals used   phosphorous  bombs on  the  Palestinian  refugees? 
5. Who  vetoed  another  motion  in the  security  council  when  the  Lebanese Christian  Militia  backed  by  the  same  Sharon,  who  started  the  present crisis,  indiscriminately  massacred  the   Palestinians  in  the  camps  of Shatila  and  Shabra. They  even  dashed    baby’s  heads  on the  walls  to kill  them  and  cut  open  the  abdomens  of   pregnant  mothers  to  make sure  that those  babies  will   not  survive? What  do  we  call  the  sponsor of  these  SADISTIC  killers ?  What  crime  did  those  babies  commit?  If these  victims  take  revenge  in  a  similar  manner  can  those  criminals say  it’s  wrong , using  the same  yardstick ?  But  Islam  is  above   such mean  revenge. 
6. Who  vetoed  every  criminal  act  of  this  Sadistic  Jewish  regime  and provided  every  support  to defend  the  genocidal   acts  of  the  Criminals for the  past  50 years,  providing billions  of  dollars   in  aid  to  these criminals  every  year. 
7. Who  used  every  known  Chemical, Biological and  other prohibited  weapons on  the  Vietnamese peasants  which  killed  millions? Who  taught  the  art  of new  “ inhuman” torture  techniques  which  were  practiced  on  the Vietnamese? 
8. Who  invaded  the   Sovereign  nation  of  Granada  and  enslaved  that  poor nation? 
9. Who  invaded  Haiti and  killed  many  Haitians  to  restore  power  to their  man  Aristide  who  was  given  ‘safe haven’  inside  their ‘Monicated’ White House  for  many  months  while  poor Afghanistan  is  under  threat  of Chemical  attack  for  keeping  Bin Laden , who  sacrificed  the   comforts  of the palace, women, wine and  billions in money  for  the sake  of Allah. 
10. Who  invaded  his  neighbour ,Panama,  and  arrested  their  leader  Noriega on  a  fake  drug   charge,  to  keep  control  over  Panama  Canal, the custody  of  which  was   due  to  expire  in 1999?  While  hundreds  of thousands  of  drug  dealers  in  their  country  are  living freely   without being  arrested. 
11. Who  provided  arms  to  two  Islamic  countries  Iran & Iraq  at  the  same time, adding  fuel  to  fire and  encouraging  the  two  brotherly  nations  to kill each other. 
12. Who  bombed   a  President’s  house  of  a  Muslim country, imposed UN sanctions  for  not  handing   over  two  ‘suspected   terrorists’  on Lockerbie  crash ? The puppet court set up for these two ultimately did not prove anything but sentenced one to life? Does  anyone  know  that the evidence showed that  the  bomb  was  planted  by  FBI. 
13. Who  shot  an  Iranian  civilian  flight over  the Persian  Gulf , killing all it’s   passengers  and escaped  without  any  UN  sanctions  or  bombardment of  their  President’s  residence. 
14. Who  gave  Russia  20  billion  Dollars  since 1992  half  of  which  has been  spent  on  protecting  their  “territorial  integrity” meaning ‘honeymooning’  in the Caucuses   and  further  10.2  billion  is  on  it’s  way to  boost  up the  moral  of  their  depleted  army , to  finish off  the menace  of Islam. 
15. Who  bombed  the  pharmaceutical  factory  of  Islamic  Sudan  with  a fake  charge  of  possessing  ingredients  for  chemical  weapons  while providing  the  Jews  with  enough chemical  weapons?  Shouldn’t  UN  take action, for  such  a terrorist  act , to extradite  the  President  of  that nation  for  trial  in Sudan  like   they  did  for  Libya ? 
16. Who  shot the tail of Egypt Air flight 767 on the US coast this year, which plunged to the bottom of atlantic along with 33 highly trained military personnel? Why wasn't the radar pictures shown to the Egyptian officials after repeated requests?What was the secret? Was it because it clearly showed the missile path? 16. Who provides cover to the jews in the UN when the jews throw the megre belongings of large Palestininan families with babiesand children, are chased out of their houses and these houses are destroyed by large excavators and bulldozers under heavy guard? 
17. Who emits the largest amount of green house gases in to the atomsphere (refuses to respect Kyoto agreement) which destroys the ozone layer, and causes cancer which will kill millions in the next decade, simply for monetory gains? Can Afghanistan or any other poor nation do this without being punished through UN? 
18. Which President said that to stop the violence in Macedonia the "rebels" should be denied access to arms and support from their fellow brothers in Kosovo without pressurizing the Macedonian Govt. to give their rights, as they did to Bosnia? A  hundred  more  events  can  be  listed. So answer the Quiz and judge  for yourself  who  the  biggest  TERRORIST   of this  planet  Earth is……..the  ENEMY OF HUMANITY….!!  Tell  me!   What  respect  does  such  a  regime  deserve?  The events  in  Palestine and Chechnya are  living  examples. No  Muslim  should fear to speak the truth. May  Allah’s  curse  be  on  this  regime  and  their  supporters  for  the unforgivable  atrocities  committed  on  our  Ummah and other poor nations.  Aameen!
NY, Kuwait

25.07.2001
Theme: Violence.

OK you are destroying the 1000 year old statues because of Allah's will. You are persecuting the people of other religions, by forcing them to live by your standarts because of Allah's will. You have a world wide terrorist organizations because of Allahs will. Allah said to fight the enemy soldiers, but did he said to blast buses and cars with civilians and children? For Afganistan: why peoples are fighting over there? Is it 15th century? Why you can't do everything like normal people. Not the military power and weapons should determine who should rule Afganistan, but ONLY Afgani people! Why you don't set free elections over there, and let the poeple chose their leaders by themselfes? I think everything that you have done has nothing to do with Islam as well as any other religion. You just want to spread your Backward Asiatic culture all over the world.
Pierre, France

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